Feminism can be held responsible for many things: a woman’s right to vote, to get an education, to have access to birth control and abortion, to name just a few. The tighty-righties would have us believe that feminism is also responsible for the demise of the family, the ‘feminization’ of boys, all divorces, and infestations of bed-bugs.
But as Dave at The Galloping Beaver recently pointed out, feminism is not responsible for many of the ills attributed to it.
We at Birth Pangs are wondering if we’re responsible for this hilarious disturbing new trend.
The concept of post-abortion trauma is hotly disputed. Several studies published in peer-reviewed medical journals suggest that women who have had abortions are more prone to depression or drug abuse. But the research does not prove cause and effect, (Dr. Nada Stotland, president-elect of the American Psychiatric Assn.) said.
It may be, she said, that women who have abortions are more emotionally unstable in the first place. Abortion is one of the most common surgeries in the country, with more than 1 million performed a year; while some who chose the procedure surely come to regret it, doctors say they see no epidemic of trauma in either men or women.
But the activists leading the men’s movement make clear they’re not relying on statistics to make their case. They’re counting on the power of men’s tears.
Ooooh, feel their pain.
“We had abortions,” said Mark B. Morrow, a Christian counselor. “I’ve had abortions.”
. . . Morrow, the counselor, described his regret as sneaking up on him in midlife — more than a decade after he impregnated three girlfriends (one of them twice) in quick succession in the late 1980s. All four pregnancies ended in abortion.
Years later, when his wife told him she was pregnant, “I suddenly realized that I had four dead children,” said Morrow, 47, who lives near Erie, Pa. “I hadn’t given it a thought. Now it all came crashing down on me — look what you’ve done.”
This is how the fetus fetishists manipulated mobilized the menz. Something called the Justice Foundation began soliciting affidavits from men.
Therapist Vincent M. Rue, who helped develop the concept of post-abortion trauma, runs an online study that asks men to check off symptoms (such as irritability, insomnia and impotence) that they feel they have suffered as a result of an abortion. When men are widely recognized as victims, Rue said, “that will change society.”
Irritability!? Insomnia?! Impotence!!!!!
The LA Times contacted some of the Male Victims of Abortion, like this guy:
Chris Aubert, a Houston lawyer, felt only indifference in 1985 when a girlfriend told him she was pregnant and planned on an abortion. When she asked if he wanted to come to the clinic, he said he couldn’t; he played softball on Saturdays. He stuck a check for $200 in her door and never talked to her again.
Aubert, 50, was equally untroubled when another girlfriend had an abortion in 1991. “It was a complete irrelevancy,” he said. But years later, Aubert felt a rising sense of unease. He and his wife were cooing at an ultrasound of their first baby when it struck him — “from the depths of my belly,” he said — that abortion was wrong.
After five more paragraphs of glurge detailing Aubert’s inspiring grief and guilt, the reporter springs a question on him.
But would his long-ago girlfriends agree? Or might they also consider the abortions a choice that set them on a better path?
Aubert looks startled. “I never really thought about it for the woman,” he says slowly.
The fetus fetishists really have to prep their stooges better.
Evul feminazis make menz cry. Poor poor menz.
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
Srsly, like
Bullshit. I call total and unmitigated bullshit.
I am
1) The father of 3 children under 8
2) Supposedly the father of fetus aborted by an old (and at the time ex) girlfriend over 20 years ago*
It has never affected me one bit, even though I have been present at the birth of all my children and present at all the ultrasounds (hell we even have a video tape of #1). I have even comforted my wife through 2 miscarriages and been present for both incidents.
More examples of “Lyin’ for Jesus” I’m afraid.
*I say ‘supposedly’ not to be cruel. I believe my old girlfriend had an abortion. But one of the reasons we became ‘ex’ and remained that way, was due to some mental health issues – she began stalking me. A few years after I married my wife and a few days after I spotted her leering at me on the University-Spadina train, a mutual friend told me it may have been made up. I have no reason to think it was, because the pill isn’t 100%, but that was what I was told.
Oh no, does this mean we’re gonna start seeing dumb avatars that say “Abortion Hurts Men” or “Equal Rights For Unborn Men”? Will they be “Silent No More”?? Talk about grasping at the proverbial straw…
I put absolutely nothing past them, JJ.
We may be going full circle here. Remember when all the fetuses were male? (WFT was that about?) Then, trying to co-opt our werds again, fetuses became ‘pre-born women’ like we feminazis were killing our own. Now, maybe the fetuses are going to become ‘pre-born men about to be hurt yet again someday by Vicious Abortion Crusaders’.
Ooo, my head hurts.
Well, that beats all.
If these guys are to be believed they are suffering some form of post-event trauma brought on by an occasion they knew nothing about until someone informed them… sometimes well after the fact.
Then they started becoming, irritable, addicted, maladjusted and godknowswhat.
They are attempting to hitch a ride on something real – Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. Unfortunately for them (and fortunately for sane, thinking realists) PTSD takes being involved in actual events to have a foundation. Knowing there was a killing 10,000 miles away, for example, does not provide a basis for PTSD.
If there is any basis for this **cough** victim-driven disorder, it is founded on one thing – self-pity.
The truth is, some of the girlfriends/spouses of these guys might not have secured abortions if the men didn’t already display significant character flaws which raised justified fears in the women. It’s quite likely one of the reasons women made the decisions they did was centered on the fact that having to deal with one of these nutballs as “the father”, was more than they could bear.
Good post. Really glad you dug this one out.
Yeah, Dave, we’re all victims on this bus.
The LAT article highlights how important the testimony of women who have been ‘hurt’ by abortion was to the idiotic ‘partial birth abortion’ decision by the Merkin Supreme Court. That’s the impetus for this bullshit enterprise. Hurt! Victims!
Well I’m waiting for the day that Monsanto or some other freakish Frankenweird company develops an artificial uterus, just to see how many “victimized” and “post-abortion traumatized” men actually step forward to have the device implanted in their own abdomen.
so i guess he lost the softball game and now regrets something or other. what a pack of asshats. back in the 80s i walked my girlfriend to the hospital following a contraceptive failure. we did the gauntlet of barking old men with their crosses and insults. there was a couple walking in front of us, the woman holding her abdomen in real discomfort. one of the caring, life loving protectors of tissue stepped forward to let them know they were murdering one of god’s beautiful babies. they stopped and gave him the dirtiest look i have ever witnessed. i didn’t hear all of what the man said but i did catch the words stomach cancer. without missing a beat the protesting jackass declared that they would be in his prayers. i did hear the woman quite clearly as we drew even with them, she told him to stick his fucking prayers up his ass.
more than twenty years later, i sometimes think about what might have been. we would have made a pretty amazing baby between us but it would have been brought into a world of hardship with parents that weren’t fully adult or fully educated and ill prepared for the responsibility. we talked at length about what to do, what our options were. in the end we made the decision to terminate the pregnancy. we wept for days but we made the right choice, given our circumstances. in the end it came down to her choice for her body and future and i supported it. we broke up about a year later but i know how much she has achieved since then. i think we both had our regrets but i still believe that the right decision was made. she is an amazing and accomplished woman, if things had been different she’d have been a teenaged welfare mom.
“… if things had been different she’d have been a teenaged welfare mom.”
Well, as the likes of the Belligerent Bellowing Wingnutter would say: So what? For HER and the battalions of abortion-criminalizing, fetus-fetishizing bullies, forcing women to carry pregnancies to term is “reason” enough. Wipe them crocodile tears and face the music they’d say and they’d wave their trumped-up pictures in your face and send their squads of religious fanatics to harass you even if you don’t believe their theocratic dogma.
…and then after she is forced to have the kid they would tell her to pull herself up by her bootstraps. If she just worked a little harder she could someday get out of the horrible cycle of living paycheck to paycheck (on welfare) and never seeing her child. The child that never would have had to suffer through this life with his/her mother had she only got that abortion when she needed it. But hey anythings better than abortion right:)
YAY!! Now the menfolk can be pre-pregnant too!
Hi, dollinks, it’s BLANCHE, she who is so wunna ful…etc., and we’ve actually seen this little me too me too bullshit before. Remember when women’s consciousness raising groups were so sucessful the men had to form their own and head out into the bush to beat their hairy chests and sit around the campfire “clearing” and “getting in touch” and “being honest”? Then there they were showing up at Take Back The Night wanting to grab a mike and give us their wisdom and how many times have we been somewhere when some guy stood up and said “what you women ought to do is…” then been sorely and grievously hurt because we all (wretched bitches) yelled siddown and shaddup, arstle.
Any time it looks as if there might be a parade, there’s a certain mentality just has to leap up on the bandwagon. Any time there’s a spotlight, that certain mentality has to vault into it and start some tired tap dance routine.
Because they are ENTITLED to their opinion, their feelings, their interpretations and their gratification.
Oh wah wah wah
We’ve heard and read the bullshit… well, men get raped, too , you know…well men are victims of spousal abuse too you know, well men get assaulted too you know. Yeah. And most of that is done to them by other men.
They want the right to go into transition houses. In some regions and areas men have forced the “right” to be on the board of directors of transition houses. They want to be midwives. They want…….fuck, they want they want they want and think they are ENTITLED.
Tiresome little gits. Boring little shitewads. Probably not even very good softball players.
And now, all those years later, oh me oh my oh you, they’re having erectile difficulty. Find something to blame for this. Oh, wait, I know, thirty some years ago seems to me I almost remember slipping someone two hundred bucks to..YEAH! That’s it. That bitch aborted my firstborn son and now I can’t get a stiffer and it’s her fault!
This isn’t about some kind of epiphany, this isn’t about Oh wow I just grew up and realized I treated some woman very shabbily, this isn’t I accept responsibility (belatedly and finally) this is just another way to throw shite at the woman who had the abortion. SHE did it, SHE got pregnant and then SHE had an abortion and now my weenie droops and SHE is why!
No empathy for the young woman, no hint of understanding of the bind in which she found herself, it’s all wah wah wah I am so sad and someone had better make me feel better because wah wah I’m entitled to be happy.
gimme gimme gimme
I see young women with kids, and to hell and gone off over the horizon there’s some witherwit who, when and if the court catches up to him, tosses a hundred bucks her way. I see her working at any job she can get and you know none of them are good jobs, none of them are well paying jobs. She lives in an old singlewide trailer and the roof leaks, she drives a beater that should be driven to the landfill and left there, her kid goes from one “baby sitter” to another, the young woman often works two jobs, and however much she loves her kid there must be times when the hydro is overdue and the kid is sick and fretful and the goddam rain hasn’t stopped in three weeks and … she must feel as if life is a big brick of raw shite.
Are any of these wah wah types stepping up to the plate and contributing in any way to daycare or to pressuring the government for better welfare or free dental and eye glasses for kids or…nope, they’re paying probably substantial money to go somewhere to listen to some absolute arstle ramble on about PTSD and then sitting with tears flowing while they mumble on about the impact the realization had on their bellies.
Well, fuck yer bellies and the rest of your package, too, you spinless whelp. YOU FLUBBED IT! Wipe the snotters off your moustache, grow a pair and assume responsibility. And for the love of little green growing things will you just face up to the fact MOMMY DOESN’T WANT YOU LIVING AT HOME ANY MORE! Do your own damned laundry, clean your own frikken toilet bowl and stop the bloody snivelling.
BLANCHE has no compassion of any kind for you. BLANCHE doesn’t want you at take back the night, on the transition house board of directors or wailing at the moon for lost chances because you are in no way at all of any use whatsoever to anybody, not even your own blubbering selves.
wah wah me too me too my aching ass!
Get off the bloody bandwagon, you’re getting in the way of the trombone players.
gormless nits. You’re probably totally lousy fathers to the kids you now have. And, in all liklihood, not very good at your jobs, either.
just fuck off, you’re not in the family way, you’re in everybody’s way.
BLANCHE feels strongly about this. Beware. Smiting comes next!
OOOOoooooooh, BLANCHE! We luvs ya!!!!
Can’t wait to see the smiting!!!
Jeez I’m glad I’m on your side in this Blanche….
“…you’re not in the family way, you’re in everybody’s way.”
Amen to that, sistagurrul! And…er…what Mike said.