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	<title>Comments on: Fetus Fetishists: Bill C-543 &#8216;Unclear&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
		<link>http://www.breadnroses.ca/birthpangs/2008/05/fetus-fetishists-bill-c-543-unclear/comment-page-1/#comment-3611</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 04:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Life Shite on C-543 : &quot;But the law already has legal provisions recognizing the special situation of pregnant women.&quot;

Somehow this same logic does not seem to apply to C-484.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Life Shite on C-543 : &#8220;But the law already has legal provisions recognizing the special situation of pregnant women.&#8221;</p>
<p>Somehow this same logic does not seem to apply to C-484.</p>
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		<title>By: deBeauxOs</title>
		<link>http://www.breadnroses.ca/birthpangs/2008/05/fetus-fetishists-bill-c-543-unclear/comment-page-1/#comment-3605</link>
		<dc:creator>deBeauxOs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 17:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s unclear to me is the purpose of the provision for the exception stated in C-484, namely this: &quot;if the person who committed the offence did so in the heat of passion caused by sudden provocation within &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.canlii.ca/ca/sta/c-46/sec232.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the meaning of section 232 &lt;/a&gt;...&quot;

Such a provision seems ominous, given that neo-cons and fundamentalist religious organizations often defend the actions of violent husbands towards their wives by claiming that the (female) victims were emotionally abusive and manipulative, and that their alleged (male) assailants were unable to control their behaviour in the face of such provocation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s unclear to me is the purpose of the provision for the exception stated in C-484, namely this: &#8220;if the person who committed the offence did so in the heat of passion caused by sudden provocation within <a href="http://www.canlii.ca/ca/sta/c-46/sec232.html" rel="nofollow">the meaning of section 232 </a>&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Such a provision seems ominous, given that neo-cons and fundamentalist religious organizations often defend the actions of violent husbands towards their wives by claiming that the (female) victims were emotionally abusive and manipulative, and that their alleged (male) assailants were unable to control their behaviour in the face of such provocation.</p>
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		<title>By: pale</title>
		<link>http://www.breadnroses.ca/birthpangs/2008/05/fetus-fetishists-bill-c-543-unclear/comment-page-1/#comment-3602</link>
		<dc:creator>pale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 20:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yanno. If it was me? And something someone did caused the end to a wanted pregnancy? Would I care that the sentencing was based on me, or the fetus?

 No. 
Normal people would just want to grieve a personal loss in peace. 

Yes they are going to &quot;question&quot; this bill, because it gives them a wedgie by completely circumventing their &quot;hidden&quot; (Ya right) intentions, and their real agenda. But they can&#039;t come RIGHT out and say that of course because they have spent so much time saying this ISN&#039;T ABOUT ABORTION..... So this should be entertaining. And pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yanno. If it was me? And something someone did caused the end to a wanted pregnancy? Would I care that the sentencing was based on me, or the fetus?</p>
<p> No.<br />
Normal people would just want to grieve a personal loss in peace. </p>
<p>Yes they are going to &#8220;question&#8221; this bill, because it gives them a wedgie by completely circumventing their &#8220;hidden&#8221; (Ya right) intentions, and their real agenda. But they can&#8217;t come RIGHT out and say that of course because they have spent so much time saying this ISN&#8217;T ABOUT ABORTION&#8230;.. So this should be entertaining. And pathetic.</p>
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