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This might be encouraging too.
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...the most important news out of the Middle East today may be the announcement in Cairo that Fatah and Hamas have agreed in principle on the formation of a national unity government by the end of March.
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Such a Palestinian national unity government could offer a viable Palestinian negotiating partner, a way to channel reconstruction aid into Gaza, an end to the endlessly destructive Fatah-Hamas conflict, and even an indirect way for Hamas to honor the Quartet's conditions.

According to the article, there's a lot of hard negotiating between the two groups before this becomes a reality. But if they can pull it off I think it would make it much more difficult for the Israeli government to claim it has no one to negotiate with.

H/t to Laura Rozen.


The good news, as the main link suggests, could be that Fatah and others got the message from George Mitchell that Obama is abandoning the strategy of isolating and demonizing Hamas. If that's so, it is hugely important, and so long overdue.

Condi Rice -- such a waste of time and lives, all those years. She wasn't the worst criminal of the bunch, but she sure was a criminal. :evil:


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That Viva Palestina initiative is incredibly uplifting. So much goodwill and passion has been shown from its inception and through its travels. It gives me hope and I hope it gives great comfort to the people in Gaza.

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Israel may face war crimes trials over Gaza
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The international criminal court is considering whether the Palestinian Authority is "enough like a state" for it to bring a case alleging that Israeli troops committed war crimes in the recent assault on Gaza.

The deliberations would potentially open the way to putting Israeli military commanders in the dock at The Hague over the campaign, which claimed more than 1,300 lives, and set an important precedent for the court over what cases it can hear.

As part of the process the court's head of jurisdictions, part of the office of the prosecutor, is examining every international agreement signed by the PA to decide whether it behaves - and is regarded by others - as operating like a state.

Following talks with the Arab League's head, Amr Moussa, and senior PA officials, moves have accelerated inside the court to deliver a ruling on whether it may be able to insist on jurisdiction over alleged war crimes perpetrated in Gaza, with a decision from the prosecutor's office expected within "months, not years".

Via Another Point of View.


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That is good news of course, if Israeli war criminals can actually face the dock, but international law has very disturbing tenets. So it is okay to massacre stateless people (as per Jewish people after the Nuremberg Laws), colonised or Indigenous people?

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Does anybody more up to date on these issues than I am know whether the PA has ever considered an UDI?


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I'd really doubt it. A UDI when you're not in a position to dictate borders would be a huge mistake.


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Although didn't Israel in essence have a UDI on May 14, 1948?


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Michael Ignatieff: Israel Apartheid Week and CUPE Ontario’s anti-Israel posturing should be condemned

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Great animated short


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That animation is so well done. As for Ignatieff... STFU!

Some interesting reads:

Anti-Ignatieff Primer

Ignatieff's Public Hissy Fit

Ignatieff: Pop Intellectual

And for something clever, check out this blog:

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Ignatieff (or whoever wrote that piece of trash):

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International law defines “apartheid” as a crime against humanity. Labelling Israel as an “apartheid” state is a deliberate attempt to undermine the legitimacy of the Jewish state itself.

Criticism of Israel is legitimate. Attempting to describe its very existence as a crime against humanity is not.


That is totally illogical. When we opposed apartheid in South Africa, we were not opposing the very existence of South Africa as a state.

You can see the trick being played, though, with those first two sentences. Leap from a specific crime to a challenge to the legitimacy of a state. When was that ever done in the case of South Africa?

Gah. Ignatieff is such a phony. Then again, he's hardly alone.


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Not to mention the "ethnic" aspect of it, identifying the Israeli state with the Jewish people.

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I am on this frequent letter-writers mailing list. I believe he is part of CanPalNet

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-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Keenan [mailto:garydkeenan@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thu 3/5/2009 5:58 PM
To: Michael - M.P.Ignatieff
Cc: Gilad Atzmon; john and betty beeching; Linda Belanger; Dick Birley; Stewart and Alicja Brown; Canadian Arab Federation; donald currie; Gerry Deagle; Dr. M. I. Elmasry; richard fahlman; hani faris; Daryl Fieber; Norman Finkelstein; Ken Hiebert; Hayssam Hulays; Rafeh Hulays; George Irani; erik kalaidzis; Steve Kalil; Bill Kaufmann; Hanna and Marion Kawas; Dalal Kawas; Luay Kawasme; Salem Kittani; Writers Letter; Henry N. Lowi; Rafe Mair; Ali Mallah; Linda McQuaig; Leslie McWhinnie; Riad Muslih; Michael Neumann; Rula Odeh; Canadian Jewish Outlook Carl Rosenberg; Dr. Rabab; Bahija Reghai; Nizar Sakhnini; Omar Shaban; Abdullah Shaban; Sid Shniad; Orest Slepokura; Angie Tibbs; Stuart Whitney; Stephen Whitney; Dr. Ismail Zayid; Zerbisias, Antonia
Subject: Re: Your Response re Gaza


Mr. Ignatieff

What a gutless and unprincipled response. You are far too intelligent, educated and world travelled to be unaware of the irrefutable fact that the root cause of the Israel/Palestinian-Arab conflict is Israel's illegal and belligerent, indeed, brutal, occupation of the Palestinian West Bank, East Jerusalem (including its illegally extended boundaries), the Gaza Strip (still "occupied" under international law as Israel controls its entrances, exits, airspace, sea access, imports, exports and reserves the right to intervene militarily while refusing to live up to its commitments under both the July 7/08 cease-fire and the one ending its recent assault), as well as Syria's Golan Heights and Lebanon's Shebaa Farms.

Instead of pandering to a particular voting bloc, I respectfully urge you to muster up the courage and moral integrity to adopt an honest and fruitful policy. For instance, give the Liberal Party's total support to the 2002 Arab League's Beirut Summit Peace Initiative which offers Israel full recognition as a sovereign state, exchange of ambassadors, trade relations and full peace in exchange for its withdrawal from all lands it invaded in June 1967 and has occupied since along with its commitment to cooperate in achieving a "just solution" to the Palestinian refugee problem/crisis.

Look around you and comprehend the fact that a sea change is occurring regarding this now over 60 year conflict. For instance, Britain has just declared it is prepared to recognize Hezbollah and more and more diplomats etc. are calling for Hamas to be included in peace talks with Israel. (How can we call upon Hamas to recognize Israel when Israel does not recognize itself, i.e., define its borders and has not formally accepted the creation of a viable sovereign Palestinian state?)

Although its image has been deteriorating at an accelerating rate for years, due in large measure to its recent slaughter of 1,400 defenceless Gazans, including about 450 children (not to mention its massive destruction of homes, schools, factories, etc.), Israel is now viewed by the vast majority of the western world (including Canadians) as a pariah state; most certainly not one that shares the "same values" as Canadians.

I refuse to believe that you personally subscribe to the views you publicly express. You are no fool. I remain convinced that what you truly believe was expressed when you accurately described Israel's actions during its 2006 barbaric blitzkreig invasion of Lebanon as "war crimes."
I look forward to you and the Liberal Party doing what is right for all peoples of the Middle East, the world, and Canada by adopting a foreign policy based primarily on the sanctity of hard-won international humanitarian law that came about largely due to the monstrous crimes of Hitler and his fellow thugs, including the systematic murder of six million Jews.

Finally, I remind you that Canada is a signatory to the UN Charter, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the 1949 Fourth Geneva Convention. Please act accordingly

Regards,
Gary Keenan



--- On Thu, 3/5/09, Ignatieff, Michael - M.P. <IgnatM@parl.gc.ca> wrote:


From: Ignatieff, Michael - M.P. <IgnatM@parl.gc.ca>
Subject: Response to Gaza email
To: "'garydkeenan@yahoo.com'" <garydkeenan@yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 2:15 PM








Dear Sir/Madam:

Thank you for your letter regarding the situation in Gaza.

The Liberal Party shares your concerns about this conflict and the suffering and loss of life on all sides.

Following the recent ceasefire, we continue to stand with the international community in its efforts to build a lasting peace in this region. As a Party, we believe that the basis of this peace must be a safe and secure Israel that is recognized by and living side-by-side in peace with a viable Palestinian state. It must also include a full resolution of the many complex issues affecting this region. Ultimately, the best way to resolve the conflict is direct negotiation between the parties, with the assistance of the international community.

The Liberal Party's position reflects our long-standing commitment to peace, stability, justice and human rights in the Middle East. It also recognizes Canada's proud humanitarian reputation. In the aftermath of this conflict, we must engage with the international community, which the Harper Government has largely failed to do, in order to ensure that humanitarian assistance reaches those who need it and to help restore the communities that have been affected by the conflict.

Thank you again for taking the time to share your views on this important issue.

Sincerely,


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I got the identical response last night to a letter I wrote.
A politician's first job is to have as wide an appeal as possible without alienating their base. The best of them also try to bring every one forward together without feeding divisions or backlash. Difficult to tell the difference sometimes.


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Viva Palestina are almost there -- others who are getting the emails will know.

They are at El-Arish tonight, which I think should mean they will be at the Rafah crossing tomorrow.

The Scottish medical-aid group that sailed in from the south (I think -- I'm interpreting loosely here) have apparently already been admitted to Gaza through the Rafah crossing, which is great. From my email:

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According to the Palestinian Information Centre bulletin this evening, the 'Justice for Palestine' Scottish convoy managed to get into Gaza late this afternoon after the Egyptian authorities gave permission for the crossing to take place at Rafah.

To our knowledge the convoy includes 20 members in 10 vehicles carrying vital medical aid and equipment for the people of Gaza.

This convoy crossed into Gaza after 60 female American peace activists managed earlier to cross the Rafah gate to show their support to the women of Gaza, on the eve of International Women’s Day, and to call for the lifting of the siege.

Many news agencies and reporters are awaiting the arrival of this phenomenal convoy. Al Jazzera reports that their crew has been prevented from reporting the arrival of the convoy at El Arich.


Even though they are on the last leg of their trip right now, I believe that this is a particularly difficult drive. They're going across the top of the Sinai peninsula, and really, there's only one town there on the coast, which is where they are right now. I mean, have you seen Lawrence of Arabia? Do you remember what it means to cross the Sinai to get to Cairo?

The coast highway would be a newer thing, though, I guess.

Anyway, I hope that we get good news tomorrow. It sounds as though the Egyptian authorities have been ultra-uptight for the last couple of days, but that was to be expected. Mubarak has obviously been shamed into allowing this, and he will wear it, but I bet he hates it.

Feh. Just keep driving, guys.


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Still no media coverage here in the land of a free press.
The Boston Herald did do a short story on Alice Walker and Code Pink going to Gaza :
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Walker is part of a group of about 60 women going to Gaza to deliver aid and meet with NGOs and residents. The trip, organized by the U.S. anti-war group Code Pink, is intended to push both Israel and Egypt to open the borders into Gaza, said Medea Benjamin, co-founder of Code Pink who helped organize the trip.


as if they were the only ones going! No mention of the Viva Palestina convoy at all!


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And I did let our foreign editor and ME correspondent know about Kim Elliott. :annoyed:


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Well, they're at Rafah -- in teh parking lot??? :mrgreen:

From the Facebook update:

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"5 mins ago live on press tv Yvonne ridley said they are outside the in the parking lot and not going in as Egypt goverment has stated that libya convoy has to cross the Israeli border. No one is going to move until libya convoy can also cross the Rafah border."


Sorry, but something about a parking lot at Rafah strikes me as funny. Ok, maybe just incongruous.

Not sure I understand the logic of demanding that the Libyans drive through Israel. God knows what will happen to that part of the convoy (apparently quite large) in Israel, if they're even allowed in.

The Egyptians have been difficult.


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There's been some negotiating, but I think it's a go:

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They are all at the Rafah crossing point. All members of the convoy made it, joined by supporters of Viva Palestina who flew out from the UK yesterday.

Sadly, it was not the end of their gruelling journey as they are finding life difficult at the border.

Reports from Rafah only minutes ago confirm that a stand off is taking place due to the Al Arich governor's decision to process only 25 vehicles a day.

Press TV reports that leaders of the convoy including George Galloway and deputy leader Talat Ali and Nazir are in intense negotiations with the Egyptians.

Yvonne Ridley reports on Press TV that there are rumours that there is an attempt to move some of the convoy to Israeli controlled crossings. Members of the convoy are united in their determination to cross at the Rafah border crossing. The Libyan contingent, which comprises 100 trucks, is adamant that under NO circumstances they will cross through an Israeli controlled crossing.

Ahmed Al-Najjar, the deputy manager of the reception committee in Gaza confirms that the key to the opening of the Rafah crossing is with Egypt. The Viva Palestina convoy is another nail in the coffin of the siege according to Mr Al-Najjar.

A reception will take place at the gate of the Rafah crossing where the convoy will be greeted with flowers and flags. Then they will taken through the Salah Eddine main road to Gaza City where they will witness the destruction that the Israelis inflicted on the Palestinian people.
After a rest and gathering in Katiba Square, the convoy will be divided into groups, some staying in Rafah, some in Khan Younes and the rest in the North.

In the last few minutes, George Galloway, Lauren Booth and other activists crossed into Gaza.

Will keep you updated.

Prepared and translated by Farid Arada


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News for the border reaches us where George Galloway and other convoy leaders, who have not crossed but are in negotiations with the authorities, confirm that they expect every vehicle to be allowed through the crossing today. There is some confusion as other reports in ther media suggested that the Egytians were not going to alllow the fire engine, boat and generator through.

We will keep you posted.


Oh, I so want a YouTube.


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Drat:

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The Viva Palestina convoy is still stuck 40km from the Rafah border crossing at Al Arish after it was being prevented from progressing through the border gates to Gaza.

During the day new obstacles have been placed in the path of the convoy passing into Gaza via the Rafar crossing - to the amazement and disbelief of everyone involved.

However, the whole convoy is determined to stay united in purpose and in one piece - and that all vehicles and equipment including the convoy's mascot, the red fire engine as well as the boat and the Bolton generator will enter Gaza together.

George Galloway and other convoy leaders have been involved in lengthy negotiations all day with the Egyptians to find a solution and remove these new obstacles. Negotiations will carry on for the rest of the day but it does look likely that the convoy will not cross into Gaza today. Indeed, Yvonne Ridley reports, from the Viva Palestina compound in Al Arish, that these is now a football match taking place between the British and Libyan drivers

Members of the convoy have found themselves extremely frustrated.

But everyone is hopeful that the humanitarian aid they have carried for 24 days over 10,000km, across seven countries and two continents, entering their third continent yesterday, will finally reach the needy and destitute people and children of Gaza without any further delays.

Will keep you updated.

On a brighter note, the Scottish Medical Aid convoy which passed into Gaza yesterday reports that they have distributed all their medical aid to the Al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza – including the keys to their trucks. They await the passage of our convoy and send their solidarity greetings.

Farid Arada and Clive Searle


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Cripes, Egypt is practically as oppressive to the Palestinians as Israel is. No surprise, but infuriating.

Another message about the grassroots impact of the campaign - and the way most mainstream media, including supposedly "progressive" media, have buried the story: Viva Palestina is your story

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ut the sad reality is that the Viva Palestina convoy, carrying the love and human solidarity from the people of Britain to the people of Gaza has been deemed un-newsworthy by nearly all of the British media.

The BBC, who next week will entreat us all to do ‘something funny for money’ in aid of Comic Relief has felt fit to mention the Convoy just three times on its website (and once hidden away in the Africa pages). The Guardian, that bastion of ‘liberal Britain’ only reported it once it thought it had the makings of a nasty little smear. The Independent showed its ‘independence’ by spiking a column by Mark Steel, which discussed Viva Palestina.

We did get media coverage from abroad – from France and Spain, Italy, Canada and a host of other countries but in Britain we had to rely on the work of a few journalists on local newspapers who still recognise a good story when they see one.

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It is Israel that's putting on the pressure. They are demanding that the convoy enter through an Israeli checkpoint. Bastards.

There has been coverage in Canada? I haven't seen it.

ETA: I don't know what kind of hold Israel and maybe the U.S. have on Mubarak, but I presume that that's what he is responding to right now.


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I haven't seen any coverage in Canadian MSM either, not in French nor in English.

Mark Steel's article spiked by the Independent: http://vivapalestina.org/alerts/260209.htm

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Drat again (at El Arish):

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Press TV have reported that this evening the convoy came under attack by a group of men claiming to be from a faction of Fatah. Stones were thrown and a number of vehicles were scrawled with anti-Hamas slogans. A few of the convoy members were slightly injured but, we would like to stress, none seriously. We have no way of knowing whether the claims of these attackers were true or not. However, George expressed his disappointment and concern at the turn of events - and pointed out that he had spent 35 years with the Palestinian resistance alongside Fatah and the late Yasser Arafat.

At 18.00 (GMT) I spoke with the convoy leaders who report that the area is now quiet and everyone is safe. They are disappointed that the Egyptian police did not protect the convoy as they should have done. But they do not expect a repeat of the earlier events.

Planning is underway for the crossing into Gaza, which they expect to take place tomorrow. The Gazan welcoming committee have re-scheduled their planned welcome for Monday.

We will keep you posted.

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Actually, via Twitter, I am picking up lots of MSM coverage.

ETA: Great 2 minute video


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They've finally got through Rafah crossing.

Seems both Israel and Egypt were responsible for the delay at the crossing.
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GROWN MEN CRYING...THE SIEGE IS BROKEN...
ON THE DAY THE PROPHET WAS BORN

And they entered side by side like heroes, some on foot some in their vehicles, tears, smiles, hugs, flowers. It was historic, it was legendary. Gaza we are here. We have fulfilled the promise - Viva Palestina! The lifeline from the people of Britain to you, the people of Gaza, has arrived.

We have broken the barriers, we have opened closed borders, we have defied the odds,we have overcome the challenges across thousands of miles and three continents. We are here to be with you, to embrace you, to share your tragedy with you.

After another morning of intense negotiations, a deal was reached to allow all of the members of the convoy to go through. In the end, Viva Palestina had to make the sacrifice of agreeing that some vehicles will have to cross the border from the Al Ouja Israeli controlled crossing point. This includes our mascot, the fire engine and the boat. This was due to the restrictions imposed by Egyptian law governing the Rafah Crossing.

A tearful Talat Ali told me that 'Rafah is the most beautiful crossing in the world', he also said that the time , effort and sacrifices put in by all the Viva Palestina family meant that history has been made today - on the day the prophet Mohammed (PBUH) was born.

George Galloway made an emotional speech thanking the people of Gaza for the wonderful reception and assuring them that for Viva Palestina and in our millions, "WE ARE ALL PALESTINIANS!" George also reiterated that the people of Palestine have voted and that their voice should be respected.

Today the convoy will head along the Salah Eddine road towards Gaza City witnessing along the way the destruction and death caused by the Israeli war machine. Along the way they will be greeted by the people of Gaza who will know that Viva Palestina is here and that they will NEVER BE ALONE.

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Yay! :applause: :applause: :applause:

I've just been reading that, and trying to figure out how that deal works. The fire engine and the boat were part of the contention yesterday, although I think that the whole of the Libyan convoy were as well, and it sounds as though that problem has been negotiated away. I hope that someone is keeping an eye on the fire engine and the boat as it passes through Israel -- I'd also like to see a map, to see how they then enter Gaza.


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There's an early YouTube of part of Galloway's arrival statement, but it's still pretty raw. I'm hoping for some nice convoy scenes soon.


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There are maps on their site.

http://www.vivapalestina.org/images/bol ... _large.jpg
http://www.vivapalestina.org/map.htm

I didn't realize 4 convoy members were refused entry to Egypt returned home to Britain. I wonder why they were refused?

This woman, Yvonne Ridley is with them and making a docu

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Antonia wrote:
Actually, via Twitter, I am picking up lots of MSM coverage.

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Excellent.


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Oh, look. The Grope finally coughed out a few paragraphs, in the context of a report on Alice Walker, Kim Elliott, the Corries, and their groups. I think this is the first time the Grope has mentioned any of these missions.

BBC

The emails I've seen are still very confusing, which has been usual enough through the journey -- you get conflicting information during the day, and then a clearer summary by evening (their evening).

I'd still like to know how the Israeli checkpoint thing worked -- that needs a special map.


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Orly is a dogged freelancer based in Jerusalem so that she managed to sell this is excellent. I wish the Star could cover. I have sent them everything. I am following all their Tweets.


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Judy Rebick and Alan Sears, Israeli apartheid week no 'hate-fest' in the National Pest of all places.

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Hah. They posted that on Facebook last week.


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Haaretz

I feel we're still not getting the full story.


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I know that some of youse handled this last week but this takedown of Iggy is great


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Thanks for that Justin Podur piece, Antonia.

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Indeed a great takedown, Antonia.
The line about him cut-and-pasting Kenney reminded me of something I've meant to bring up before. Unfortunately this is just anecdote now as I'm unable to relocate the source.
Sometime last year I listened to Kenney being interviewed on an Israeli radio station. The host was very pleased to have as a guest such a good friend to Israel and there was much mutual getting along just fine until the West Bank was mentioned. To my surprise, and to the obvious consternation of the host, Kenney argued - I would say strenuously - for right of return. The host objected, Kenney was adamant, she wrapped up the interview, and afterwards explained to her listeners how wrong he was.

I mention this because it is worth remembering how much of the over-the-top pro-Israel rhetoric from guys like Kenney is purely for domestic consumption in Canada.


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From Viva Palestina :
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The Anglican Bishop of Jerusalem, Bishop Riah, today phoned George Galloway as he returned to London from Gaza, to offer his congratulations for the success of the convoy. He told George that he had wanted to join the convoy in Gaza but was refused permission by the Israelis (as he is in Jerusalem).



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Great news as well (well, the good part of it).

I think it must have been difficult for those in Gaza to maintain much e-access at all, since we've had so few updates since the crossing, and we still don't have a full and entirely clear narrative -- who went in when and how, especially, remains unclear. Most of the members of the convoy have flown home by now and the others will soon (there is an update from those who've stayed to survey the destruction further), so I hope that a few of them will set out good descriptions of the climax of the trip.

Everything went so well until they got to Egypt ... And then I trust that everything went well once they got into Gaza.


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