Harper's many stupidities
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skdadl
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 Harper's many stupidities
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stribe36
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If its located anywhere, it will be located here
Not in the actual reporting of the story - but on the right panel, CTV has Harper's speech when he did it live in 3 segments. Steve mentioned it would be somewhere in there.
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skdadl
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Thanks, Scott.
I really want to get that on record. I mean, we know the dork thinks that way, but I want the record. 
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skdadl
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Caught it. It's in part 2: sorry, but I don't see a timing device there -- it must be at least halfway through that segment, which is 11+ minutes long.
Goddamn him. The translator said: "no time to protest or money to hire protestors." I've got to go back to hear how he describes those decent citizens who aren't like us dirty protestors, but that's got him.
I have to quit for tonight, but that is fodder. What an awful man. What an awful awful man. 
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skdadl
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This is close:
"... for the well-being of families and taxpayers, the truckers, the cashiers, retired persons, salesmen, farmers, entrepreneurs, the people who work hard and who have no time to protest or money to hire protestors."
I can't hear his French very well, so I'm just following the translator.
His French is not beautiful, but it is fluent, in the sense that it flows, much better than mine would.
And he is a bastard. Let's all take that apart tomorrow. What a bastard.
Who the hell has hired protestors except the Sureté?
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fern hill
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Debra has talked about reviving the Front Page. I feel something coming on. . .
Lying is one thing. Sneering is a whole nother kettle of fish.
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deBeauxOs
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Stevie's contempt for people who will not be manipulated nor hoodwinked by him radiates from his body language, as well as his words. He is a controlling and angry jerk with a short fuse.
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Harry Powell
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I don't understand. Is it a bad thing to express your disagreement when you don't like what the government's doing? Isn't that part of our Charter rights?
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Debra
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except that Harper doesn't believe in Charter Rights unless he can mangle them to his use. Much as he didn't believe people should have the right to get money from the government to fight the government....oh well except if those people are
Quote: And in a further example, the National Citizens' Coalition, a non-profit organization with the stated goal of promoting "more freedom through less government" and previously headed by Canadian Alliance leader Stephen Harper, has also had its successes. That organization has convinced the Supreme Court on several occasions to knock down third-party election spending laws. Advocates of the laws say they prevent elections from being swayed by expensive ad campaigns. Opponents of the laws, like the NCC, say such legislation restricts freedom of speech. So far, the Supreme Court of Canada has agreed with the NCC.
By the way 
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Toedancer
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Look Busy! Get To Work! We got a recession coming people. Oh no we don't, we do, we don't. What does Flaherty think? He refuses to speculate, no it will have a modest effect, no the TD bank says it won't happen here, anyway it doesn't matter, just get to work and for gawd sakes stop going to protests!
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Debra
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This recession bullshit drives me insane.
we are in a depression, only this time the guys at the top figured out how to profit from it.
We will not left out of this depression because it makes them money and keeps us malleable.
Homelessness is no considered not an emergency but a fact of life. Hunger is not something to solve but an issue for foodbanks and charities.
Poverty is not an embarrassment for society but a moral failing on the part of those so afflicted.
Recession, inflation, unemployment rates all just smoke and mirrors to keep the boot planted even more firmly on our necks.
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Alison@Creekside
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Toe :
And in the middle there :
The president of the Bank of Canada responds....no he doesn't...
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Alison@Creekside
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Debra : 
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ReWind.it
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A friend watched QP today. She said - at the end a Petition was read by a Lieberal. It basically said Harper Was A Fraud! Stealing money from the seniors yada yada...but the interesting part was the signatories hadn't all weighed in yet and another 25,000 were coming! Can't find any source of course. That's way too grey powered to be true, but it could be. ???
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deBeauxOs
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Attention, attention all B'n'Rers.
There has been a discussion over at TGB regarding an apt, snappy expression for the current PM, one that can be leveraged and popularized in the media, exploited for our own merriment and a source of inspiration to countless political caricatures.
Your humble servant suggested StevieBot. Dave likes it. And he asked me to take it for a spin over here. What do you think?
_________________ "There are two kinds of humor. One kind that makes us chuckle about our foibles and our shared humanity. ... The other kind holds people up to public contempt and ridicule - that's what I do." Molly Ivins 1944-2007
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fern hill
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Shrub called him Steve, so I suggested SteveBot.
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deBeauxOs
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Either one is good, it has a kind of roguish Toy Q'aeda resonance to it, doesn't it? 
_________________ "There are two kinds of humor. One kind that makes us chuckle about our foibles and our shared humanity. ... The other kind holds people up to public contempt and ridicule - that's what I do." Molly Ivins 1944-2007
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Berlynn
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I like SteveBot, m'self. I like the way the "v" and "b" sounds work. But then I am a crazy poet, so you shouldn't really ask me about language stuff!
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sparqui
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I like SteveBot too. Somewhere in my interweb meanderings I caught glimpse of The Economist referring to Harper as an automaton
http://the-mound-of-sound.blogspot.com/ ... maton.html
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deBeauxOs
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This is a breaking story researched and disclosed this morning by Radio-Canada. Globe & Mail reporters were also involved in the investigative journalism. The scoop: Harpoon's press secretary and Québec counsel Dimitri Soudas may have interfered in a Public Works case against a financial supporter of the CPC, and been present at a meeting that involved a supplier of military equipment, also connected to the CPC.
Here's the G&M story. Quote: “I don't get why Dimitri Soudas, a guy who does communications, talked about a file and meet with people who have representations to make about a case that is in front of the courts,” he said.
In a scrum with reporters, Mr. Soudas said he was only asking questions after a Montreal city councillor raised the issue with him.
“There was no interference,” Mr. Soudas said. “For those who choose to serve the public, in the spirit of transparency, looking into a file makes common sense. The file was looked into. As you may have noticed, the issue was before the courts at the time, it remains before the courts today. Basically, no favours were exchanged,” he said.
Mr. Soudas's move in the summer of 2006 came a few months after an intervention on the same matter by his friend and party fundraiser, Leo Housakos, who was named by the Harper government to the board of Via Rail last month.
The undoing of Steviebot - one wingnut at a time. 
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deBeauxOs
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impolitical blogs about the story: Quote: Just as in the Chalk River shutdown situation, with Minister Lunn crossing the line in directing an independent quasi-judicial tribunal to follow his direction, this is another situation where the proper boundaries do not appear to have been respected. You don't get involved in a matter that's before the courts. And you'd think that having come into office on a train called accountability, they'd be extra careful to avoid transgressions like this... But wait, it gets weirder. During question period, Stevie got churly and tried to make the Bloc MP look bad, to be making an ethnocentric mountain out of a molehill. Quote: Mr. Guimond asked Mr. Harper if he had ever met with Mr. Housakos at the Prime Minister's official residence 24 Sussex.
“The Bloc member mentioned two people who are of Greek origin,” Mr. Harper replied, “one who was an employee here in Ottawa, another one who is a supporter of the Conservative party in Montreal. The fact that [there's] two Montreal gentlemen of Greek origin doesn't mean there's a conspiracy here.”
Mr. Harper's response drew howls of protest from the Opposition. Liberal MP Denis Coderre said it was “degrading” that Mr. Harper made his rebuttal on an ethnic basis.
_________________ "There are two kinds of humor. One kind that makes us chuckle about our foibles and our shared humanity. ... The other kind holds people up to public contempt and ridicule - that's what I do." Molly Ivins 1944-2007
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skdadl
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Brilliant post again on this story from Impolitical today.
Quote: His puny statement yesterday is another example of the Harper judgment in action. Naked, unassisted, from his gut, raw instinct on full display. The PM unscripted. And hitting what has to be an absolute low for a Prime Minister of late.
If the media will just run with this ... It's not the easiest story for ordinary citizens to figure out, but Harper is filthy, and this story could have legs.
Gee. Our very own Lurita Doan. Our very own Scott Jennings. Our very own Sara Taylor. Our very own Monica Goodling. And I could go on ...
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anne cameron
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The writer expressed the opinion the mind boggles at the PM's thought processes leading up to his attempt to dismiss the criticism as racist.
The PM is a racist. He sees much, if not everything, in racist terms. So when someone criticizes or questions, he just naturally assumes they're coming from a racist position, as well.
If you don't want to believe Stevie is racist just spend a half hour or so looking at what's been done with regard to FN, starting with his cancellation of the Kelowna Accord. It was flawed, yeah, but he just cancelled it. Ba-doing.
I'm still struggling with the fact this scumsucker was elected. The best I can come up with is that the Canadian voting public is naive and really believed the pre-election b.s.
Otherwise I have to seriously consider the possibility we live in a nation of dumb and dumber.
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sparqui
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Spot on:
Quote: Naked, unassisted, from his gut, raw instinct on full display. The PM unscripted.
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ReWind.it
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Dion receives letter from Dimitri Soudas lawyer. Apologize or get sued.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2024195/DionNotice
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Boom Boom
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It says " PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL". How was it obtained? 
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ReWind.it
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I guess you'd have to ask Stephen Taylor.
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ReWind.it
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The micro-managing (control freak syndrome) continues.
[url=http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/story.html?id=277560]Environment Canada has "muzzled" its scientists, ordering them to refer all media queries to Ottawa where communications officers will help them respond with "approved lines."
The new policy, which went into force in recent weeks and sent a chill through the department research divisions, is designed to control the department's media message and ensure there are no "surprises" for Environment Minister John Baird and senior management when they open the newspaper or turn on the television, according to documents obtained by Canwest News Service.
"Just as we have ‘one department, one website' we should have ‘one department, one voice,' " says a PowerPoint presentation from Environment Canada's executive management committee that's been sent to department staff.[/url] Good gawd we need a revolution in quicktime.
_________________ A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.
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Mandos
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skdadl
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Lawyers write crap like that all the time. People have to learn to ignore most of it. I'm sure Dion will.
Crap. That is crap. So sue me. 
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skdadl
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PS: Great post, Mandos.
Damn, but I am getting depressed. I am in scandal overload. North America is being run by a crooked syndicate! How did this happen? We're too smart and too good for this, peeps. We gotta stop them!
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deBeauxOs
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That is ridiculous. The press has been all over this story - is Soudas also suing Radio-Canada and the G&M? 
_________________ "There are two kinds of humor. One kind that makes us chuckle about our foibles and our shared humanity. ... The other kind holds people up to public contempt and ridicule - that's what I do." Molly Ivins 1944-2007
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Croghan27
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I phoned a bud in Fort McMurray last night. It seems that Steven H., the light at the end of our tunnel, was out a-visiting Syncrude this week.
As a thrill they offered my pal Larry a chance to get his picture taken with the great helmsman.
This cause great laughter in the control room. They all knew that Larry, the past Pres of the NDP riding association, would decline the offer. 
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Croghan27
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Gary Lunn now on CBC, The House: that Keen woman just did not understand the act.
(and we saved hundreds, neigh, thousands of lives with C-38.)
His best point is, WADDAFCUK happened to the opposition? They ALL, (as in the NDP too) supported it. 
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skdadl
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On that point, he is right. The opposition got snookered. Dorks. 
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fern hill
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This is drift, I suppose, but the opposition in Ottawa gives me the same hopeless feeling the opposition to Mike Harris here in Ontario gave me. The guvmint pulls these incredible stunts and some Hon. Mem. go 'oh oh'.
Dickwads the lot of them.
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Croghan27
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skdadl wrote: On that point, he is right. The opposition got snookered. Dorks. 
Major unhappyness with the oppostion here .... they get paid NOT to GET SNOOKERED.
I have read a couple of American commentators that say that bipartisan efforts in the US are now defined submitting to the Bush agenda ... it seems that has taken hold in Canada as well -
I recall a sign on a secretary's desk I used to see: "Pard'in me, poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency in mine."
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Boom Boom
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Croghan27
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Bill B. is a very nice man, hard working, committed, knowledgable agreeable and spiritual. He is retiring - if that is not an out of context quote, good thing.
Mendacity is a Tory speciality going waaaaay back, brought to an art form by (but not limited to) Mulroney. Blaikey should know better ... any working man, even if they do not have a God, treats safety authorities decisions as close to divine revelation.
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Boom Boom
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That quote is not out of context, Croggy - it is exactly what he said after the vote was taken to re-start the reactor at Chalk River. Blaikie had been snookered, badly, just like the rest of the NDP, and the Libs, and the BQ. 
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