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Why Quebec sides with Palestine, by Lysiane Gagnon

I'm ticked off at the way she's spun this, although I think she's more or less correctly identified the sources of support.
Of course, lagatta knows way more about the background on this; my impression from the outside is that there is an instinctive sympathy with the Palestinians because they have been conquered by military and economic power, and are suffering from the consequences - withdrawal of economic, political power and civil rights. I don't think it's necessary to delve into an anti-Semitic past in Quebec which was present everywhere, though perhaps more socially exploited in Quebec to explain why Quebec is sympathetic to the Palestinian cause; i.e. no need to brand the province's politicians and unions as left-wing anti-Semites. :roll:


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I almost smashed my monitor reading that screed. How does she get away with such utter lies as depicting the recent demonstration in solidarity with the people of Gaza thusly:

This year, during the war in Gaza, the same scenario was repeated. A demonstration supposedly calling for peace turned into a loud show of hatred against Israel and Jews, with a sea of Hamas flags displayed in downtown Montreal. There was a difference, though. This time around the leaders of the Bloc and the Parti Québécois abstained from attending, and there was not a Liberal MP in sight. But the union leaders were there.

I was there, it was a perfectly peaceful and orderly demonstration with many families in attendance, and not even any anarchist "black block" types intent on smashing windows or confronting the police.

The police were nicer to the demonstrators than I'd ever seen in decades of protest; police, or course, have a strong "esprit de corps" and I suspect many were very pissed off indeed that Israel's first strikes were against police stations, and an entire class of police academy graduates. Sure there were angry cries against Israel, but isn't that normal when an army is massacring a desperate, imprisoned population? I didn't hear a single cry or chant against "Jews", and I know the Arabic word for Jews. There were many, many more Jews on our side (Palestinians and Jews United, the Independent Jewish Voices group and simply people whom I know to be of Jewish origin who attended the demonstration with many different trade union and community association groups.

And, believe it or not on the Sabbath, a good contingent of Chassidic Jews opposed to Israel - and not only for theological reasons; their website is also explicit about the oppression endured by the people of Gaza and all Palestine. As you know, they are extremely ultraorthodox Jews who don't take cars or public transport on the Sabbath unless there is an extreme medical emergency that is potentially fatal - they don't use phones or electronic media either on the Sabbath, once again unless there is a potentially fatal situation. For example, they won't phone the police if there is a robbery on the Sabbath, unless there is a hostage-taking or other situation of possible fatal violence. (And of course some nasty criminals play on this). Chassidim and other Haredi (ultraorthodox) don't ride bicycles or even walk long distances on the Sabbath - as such exercise is considered "work", and all work including cooking is forbidden.

The Chassidim must have reasoned that it was a life-and-death situation.

The other back-story is Lysiane Gagnon's own rightward evolution. Like many current, former, and er, late journalists I have known, she got her start at the leftwing indépendantiste journal "Québec Presse". This is long ago that antisemitism was still a presence in Québec and other societies, and the left was naturally horrified by it. I wonder if this plays a part in Gagnon's nutty Zionism?

Will get back to this - have to finish a translation now.

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I stopped reading her years ago. Her columns are badly written con screeds.
But you made me look.
I can't speak to the veracity of her claims about the demos -- although I am sure she wasn't there and relied entirely on TV news versions, which usually show the worst in any demo.
Most of what she says seems true enough, I suppose.
My problem is her conclusion: Criticizing Israel's actions is ''Judeophobic.''
Note how she avoids the anti-Semitic word, probably because she refers to Quebecers of MidEast origin.
But it's really what she means.


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I believe the term "Judeophobia" is of French (from France) origin; because of the many Arab-speaking "Semites" in France, but also because it would be strange indeed to accuse the French left of "antisemitism" when most of the traditional parties of the mainstream and radical left are direct heirs or offshoots of parties, associations and groups that were directly involved in the anti-Nazi resistance and paid a heavy price. I have a friend, elderly now of course, who as a young man smuggled Jewish and antifascist families out of the country to safety when he was in a maquis in Normandy.

"Judeophobia" means something like opposed to or showing animosity towards the Jewish community and its interests, slippery slope being that because the majority among the Jewish community are at least somewhat Zionist, disagreement with that is... well, you know. It is a sneaky way of accusing everyone from liberal democrats to the revolutionary left of somehow, deep-down, hating those Jews ... or hating themselves if the Judeophobes in question are Jews, as many are.

According to the article in Alternatives International, the term was first used by Maxime Rodinson, a progressive French historian of Eastern European Jewish origin, who devoted a great deal of study to the Arab world. But it soon became the title of a Zionist screed, "La nouvelle judéophobie":

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Le terme judéophobie a été introduit par Maxime Rodinson pour décrire les phénomènes antijuifs dans l’histoire . Si l’antisémitisme participe de la judéophobie toute forme de judéophobie ne saurait se réduire à ce phénomène historiquement circonscrit qu’est l’antisémitisme. Il est vrai que le terme judéophobie a pu prendre une connotation particulière depuis que Pierre-André Taguieff a écrit ce mauvais pamphlet qui s’intitule La nouvelle judéophobie, ouvrage remarquable par les amalgames qu’il commet dans la plus pure tradition stalinienne, mêlant les islamistes, les nouveaux historiens israéliens, les trotskistes, les marxistes compatissants et les chrétiens sentimentaux.


http://alternatives-international.net/article329.html I don't know whether this article exists in English as well; the site is bilingual but not all articles are in both languages.

Rudolf Bkouche is a retired professor and a member of UJFP (Union juive française pour la paix) www.ujfp.org

As for the last demo, I was there and honestly saw no violence whatsoever. The only "tension" was a shouting match between people - and especially Jews - at the Gaza demo and a small group of Zionist counterprotestors, Comité Québec-Israel. That could have been what they aired on the news, but I was looking at the entire confrontation (standing behind a snowbank) and there were no punches and nothing thrown. One guy I know was making a point of haranguing the Zionists in Yiddish. ;)

I was in Europe during the Lebanon demo, which was HUGE. Normally utterly apolitical Lebanese of all confessions or none turned out, and there are a hell of a lot of Lebanese here. So I can't vouch for it being peaceful but none of the many people I know who attended reported any roughness.

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I don't think it would occur to the "average Quebecker" that their opposition to Israeli occupation and invasion of Gaza could be perceived as Judeophobic. Outside of Montreal, it's true that there isn't a significant Jewish population, most Jewish anglophones are based in Montreal or have moved out entirely; and there are very few Jewish francophones anywhere in Quebec, though I have met a few individuals here and there (usually Sephardic rather than Ashkenazi background). It's also true that Quebec has welcomed Francophones from the Middle East from all kinds of countries and backgrounds and religions, but who have the French language in common. So, my question is - how can you be Judeophobic when: 1) there are few if any Jewish people in your surroundings and you would only recognise them as generic Anglophone if you did (exception faite pour les Chassdim); and 2) you are simultaneously being branded as anti-Muslim xenophobic and pro-Muslim terrorist sympathiser?

I trust lagatta's observations and assessment 100 times over anything Gagnon has to say. Of course Gagnon didn't attend the demonstration - I don't even know if she even lives in Montreal; most of her roundup of Quebec politics and trends sounds to me like someone who peeks in from time to time, notes a few facts or events, and then writes the conclusions that the ROC already wants to know or believe about Quebec.


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Oh I completely agree with you BN and Lagatta.

She is a hack of the worst kind, who tosses off this G&M column for the spare change it affords her. She is also completely out of touch with modern realities, as well as anything approaching the middle/working classes.

her stuff reminds me of the crap you get from The Suburban.


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Haaretz : West Bank gets green light for major expansion
2,500 more housing units


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RIP, two-state solution.


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Yep. Actually, it was fated when settlement construction began, I think, all the way back when Israel took the West Bank. The purpose was to create a fait accompli. And it worked. The problem is that it's now a fait accompli for Israel. Israeli policy-makers thought they could run out some kind of metaphysical clock on the conflict, but it turns out that the Palestinians, at a terrible price, are the ones waiting for the clock to run out.


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I thought this might interest some of you...
I think it is interesting in the context of the U of C pro-lifers claiming not to have free speech, when language is actually being banned in this case...

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Margaret Aziza Pappano

In the aftermath of the most recent Israeli assault on the Palestinian people, we now know that many buildings of the Islamic University in Gaza have been destroyed, as at least ten bombs have hit this so-called “military target,” including a residence for female students. Students waiting for a bus were hit. How will they hold classes now? Even before this, classes were piecemeal, governed by such unavoidable distractions as failure of electricity and sudden erection of checkpoints. Students in Gaza and in the West Bank struggle to get an education and professors struggle to teach classes. I once ran a workshop on applying to graduate schools in the U.S. and Canada for Palestinian students in which I had to field questions like, how do I explain that I am 35 and still working on a BA because my university was closed for five years and I was imprisoned for two? How do I explain that I can't get a letter of recommendation because my professor was killed? As we encounter frustrations like too-large seminars and inadequate teaching support, North American academics may have difficulty imagining such dire circumstances as the stuff of daily life.

While most academics would agree that a university should be a place where critical debate is fostered, what is academic freedom when the freedom to attend classes without being bombed isn't even assured? Academic freedom falters it seems when it comes to Palestine, whether in the Middle East or in North America. Not only is there no realizable academic freedom for Palestinians, but also, even in North America, students and faculty raising critical viewpoints about Israel find themselves muffled, accused of anti-Semitism, threatened with disciplinary action, or, in the case of former Depaul University professor, Norman Finkelstein, out of a job entirely.

In Canada, the annual educational event known at “Israeli Apartheid week,” held on university campuses, has faced repeated attempts to suppress it. What justification can be found to block an event in which scholars and activists speak about the history of the region, with a focus on the illegal occupation of Palestinian territory, information that is taught in history and political science classes and available in books published by university presses? Yet, 125 University of Toronto faculty members signed a letter, published in the National Post, in which they “request[ed] that the administration stop this hateful and divisive event from returning to our University.”

More worrisome, however, is that the administration on some campuses has actually endeavoured to comply, a trend that should alarm anyone who cares about the integrity of their university. In February of last year, the McMaster University administration attempted to ban the use of the term “Israeli apartheid” by Student Union clubs on campus, including “activities promoted under the banner, 'Israeli Apartheid Week.'” It was only after a concerted protest and huge rally that the administration backed down from what would likely have been an illegal action anyway.

This year's event has been marked by a similar action at Carleton University. The Israeli Apartheid week poster was banned by the university's Equity Services because of its graphic, a drawing of an Israeli bomb being dropped on a child, who is labeled “Gaza.” The SAIA (Students Against Israeli Apartheid) chapter was informed that the “image could be seen to incite others to infringe rights protected in the Ontario human rights code.” The interim Provost and Vice President of Carleton, Feridun Hamdullahpur, circulated a letter to the entire Carleton community in which he threatened indefinite expulsion for anyone contravening the code; although vaguely worded, the letter alludes to “harassment and intolerance which can take the form of inappropriately challenging or questioning a person's race or beliefs.” One has to wonder how this stock anti-war graphic can be seen as “inappropriate,” unless Carleton is concerned to protect Israel's image rather than the rights of its students to free expression.

York University and the University of Toronto have both witnessed similar attempts to harass students and faculty expressing advocacy for Palestinian rights.

In May of 2008, Professor David McNally, then chair of the Department of Political Science at York, received a disciplinary letter from his dean. His crime? Speaking at an “unauthorized student rally” “by means of amplification.” It turns out that it was no coincidence that the rally in question was a pro-Palestine rally. McNally had spoken at another rally the day before (for the group No One is Illegal) at precisely the same time and in the same space and with the same amplification system and received no disciplinary letter. Hence, he was forced to conclude that the underlying crime was not speaking at an unauthorized rally or by means of any particular audio aids but in fact speaking in support of Palestinian human rights. There was clear evidence of bias. With the help of his union, McNally was able to get the charges dropped. However, he wonders if it might have turned out otherwise, given different circumstances. Would a faculty member with less compelling evidence and less of a public profile and academic stature had to face disciplinary action? McNally relates that several untenured faculty commented nervously on his case. Even if the action against him was eventually withdrawn, it seems to have sent its intended chilling effect to other academics inclined to advocate for Palestinian rights.

Students Against Israeli Apartheid at York and the University of Toronto have also faced disciplinary action. While members of York SAIA admit that they do not always manage to comply with the arcane and nearly impossible rules to get official permits and room bookings through university channels, they do so with the understanding that most other student groups do likewise. However, unlike other student groups, they are fined, their room bookings cancelled, and their group subjected to disciplinary proceedings. In October 2008, SAIA at the University of Toronto discovered that all of its requests for room bookings for their conference, “Standing Against Apartheid” were abruptly denied. Recently, through the freedom of information act, they were able to obtain the official correspondence behind this action. To their astonishment, they discovered an email trail, going all the way to the University President, discussing what rationale to use to deny them the rooms before they were even booked. From the emails, it is clear that the University of Toronto administration actively conspired to block the event from the university campus, even if they found a loophole to do so.

In 2004, York Social Science Professor David Noble distributed pamphlets after a film screening in which he suggested that there were links between the York University Foundation and Canadian pro-Israel lobbies. The next day, York University administration issued a media release denouncing him. After an arbitration process that took several years, Noble's name was eventually cleared and the administration was found guilty of violating his academic freedom. As part of a lengthy report prepared by CAUT (Canadian Association of University Teachers), Noble's cause and that of others, most prominently Daniel Freeman-Maloy, an undergraduate student and Palestinian activist unjustly expelled from the university, are shown to be part of a larger pattern in which there are “threats to and breaches of the right of free expression and academic freedom at York University.”. Many of the students and faculty whose rights have been violated are those who have been actively involved in advocating for Palestinian rights and indeed the report does contain evidence pointing to a pro-Israel bias among the York administration.

Israeli Apartheid Week raises such ire that Professor Shahrzad Mojab, former Director of the Women and Gender Studies Institute at the University of Toronto, was assailed just for a routine publicizing of the event. She reports that in 2005, the first year of the event, the Institute posted the announcement on its listserve, as it does for any number of other non-Institute events. However, she and staff members received threatening phone calls and email messages from anonymous callers and objection email messages from colleagues on campus. She found herself isolated and nasty slogans were written on an anti-war poster on her office door. Many, even a former President of the university, complained about the use of the Institute's listserve to publicize the event. One colleague publicly called her an anti-Semite when she was being introduced at a panel. Although Mojab filed a complaint, there has been no follow-through to clear her name. Mojab noted that although the Institute publicized many other “politically-sensitive” and even controversial events, none received this type of reaction.

A pattern of intolerance for speech about Palestinian human rights appears to have established itself in Canadian universities. Supporters of Israel's military occupation often claim the opposite – that universities are havens for speech against Israel. Certainly, there is “speech against Israel” in terms of events like Israeli Apartheid Week, now in its fifth year at the University of Toronto, that seek to raise critical perspectives about the occupation. Such speech, we should acknowledge, is part of normal academic discourse that examines racism, colonialism, and militarism in their many forms and in general steers clear of promoting government propaganda. Such speech is now under threat in Ontario universities, even as there is a growing interest in having informed and critical discussions about Israel's military occupation. In five years, Israeli Apartheid Week has expanded to an event now encompassing about forty cities around the globe.

The recent slaughter of Gaza demonstrates that it is more important than ever for academics to speak out and use the resources of the university to make the world aware of the gross injustices perpetrated by Israel's military occupation. Academics have been slower to respond than their colleagues in labour unions, many of whom have passed resolutions supporting the BDS (Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions) campaign, a non-violent movement designed to pressure Israel into compliance with international law. Yet, recent weeks have seen momentous change in universities as student unions have signed on to the Palestinian Right to Education campaign and thousands of faculty have signed petitions to condemn the attack on Gaza and express solidarity with Palestinian colleagues. In Montreal, a group of faculty has endorsed the BDS campaign and in the U.S., Hampshire College has voted to divest from six companies with ties to Israel. As students and faculty raise their voices against the predation of the Israeli army on Palestinian civilians, universities must be made safe spaces for expressing dissent and telling the truth about who is suffering in Palestine. •

Margaret Aziza Pappano is Associate Professor, English, Queen's University and a founding member of Faculty 4 Palestine.


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I bet Ezra Levant and the "free speech" crusaders wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole. There idea of free speech is to push their extreme views as deserving serious public consideration ("Expelled" - check), promote hatred and distrust ("Danish Cartoons" - check) and/or disseminate propaganda that supports their cause ("Partial Birth/Pill Kills" - check).

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The Medium Lobster speaks!

http://fafblog.blogspot.com/2009/02/lif ... fense.html


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Der Spiegel: Former Peace Negotiators Call for End to Hamas Boycott:

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They were part of the peace settlements in Cambodia, Somalia and Bosnia, they negotiated with militant groups like the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka or the IRA in Northern Ireland and a few of them were also engaged in the Middle East peace process. Fourteen elder statesmen from Europe, Australia, South America, Africa and Asia are calling in an open letter for the Mideast Quartet, comprised of the European Union, United Nations, Russia and the United States, to end their diplomatic boycott against Hamas.

The signatories of the letter, which is being published exclusively by SPIEGEL ONLINE in Germany and the Times of London on Thursday, include former Israeli Foreign Minister Shlomo Ben-Ami; Alvaro de Soto, who served as the UN envoy for the Middle East Quartet from 2005 to 2007; Lord Chris Patten, the former British governor of Hong Kong and European Commissioner; and Lord Paddy Ashdown, who served as the High Representative for Bosnia-Herzegovina and oversaw the implementation of the Dayton Accords.

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Former Israeli Foreign Minister Ben-Ami told SPIEGEL ONLINE the letter was directed equally at the European Union and the United States, but also at Israel. "Israel has to start thinking outside the box. I can recall the case of the Palestine Liberation Organization. The PLO didn't recognize Israel as a precondition, but as a result of the Olso process. The same should happen with Hamas."


The letter (PDF format)

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Chris Patten's name always jumps out at me -- he is also co-chair of the International Crisis Group, which on the one hand is essence of global elite and yet on the other supports some of the best research and work on the ground that there is (in the areas I know, anyway), apparently without fear or favour. Their reporting on Somalia, for instance, has been excellent for the last four or five years, and their people there have never been afraid, eg, to finger the CIA as a major source of trouble, or to argue that the government of the Islamic Courts was a much more legitimate expression of the Somali people than was/is the puppet government propped up by the West. If you're ever looking for background to any international crisis, check out the ICG site -- it's a goldmine.

And the rest of that list is like that -- buncha old-fashioned but competent ruling-class guys who are obviously convinced that the wrong people have been in charge for too long, and could we have some grown-ups, please. I think that's what's going on there, and wotthehell -- let's hope they have some effect.


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Yes, very interesting about the crisis group. Indeed I'm sure that even in the old ruling elite there are many people who think Gaza was simply too much.

Did I post the Viva Palestina website here? http://www.vivapalestina.org Lots of links to local initiatives throughout the UK, including Stirling, and a Manchester brigade named for an old Jewish lefty. They've made it to Tunisia, with their fire engine, fishing boat, and everything in between. Many videos.

Confess I love not only this family and community's initiative, but the South Asian/Scottish accent... http://www.vivapalestina.org/video3.htm

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What a fantastic project/adventure. I had only heard about it tangentially, from a Guardian report about the seven men stupidly arrested in Lancashire on their way to join the convoy in London; they are now free and have travelled directly to Tunis, where they will link up with the main convoy, which has just crossed into Tunisia. I should have followed the story to this great website -- there's just next to nothing in the msm (although there is a Facebook page, o' course).

Galloway is a force of nature. Some people here will have seen his testimony before Norm Coleman's Homeland Security Senate subcommittee in 2005, when sleazebag Coleman was trying to smear Galloway with lies about Galloway's ties to Saddam, etc. (That YouTube is the short version -- the full C-SPAN session is also up on YouTube in four parts.) Galloway just wiped the floor with Coleman and openly condemned the invasion in terms Americans are still afraid to use; I doubt the members of that committee had ever heard anyone who talks like him. Galloway must be enjoying Coleman's current extended humiliation as he loses his Senate seat to Al Franken, recounted vote by recounted vote -- I certainly am, although it would be good to have Franken voting in the Senate soon.

But back to Viva Palestina. I should blog this. I mean, talk about your motorcades! They're going to have support in Libya (another convoy is apparently linking up there), but I wonder what they're going to face with the Egyptians, who by now will know that the convoy is headed to Rafah and who must have some problems with that. Egypt has been in a declared state of emergency since Sadat's assassination in 1981, if you can believe it, and Mubarak feels free to do anything he wants to do with just about anyone -- that regime scares me more than the Saudis do, and it's probably even more the root provocation for al-Qaeda.

What language, btw, is Viva Palestina? Spanish/Italian? Why? And do you know of substantial ties to any individual political grouping? I know they're supported by the anti-war coalition; is there anything more tendentious than that? That wouldn't necessarily put me off, but I like to know where I'm going.

ETA: Hmmn. Things did not go entirely well in Tunisia -- I'm reading an update on the Facebook site. Police stopped the convoy for a time but then allowed it to go on. However, two people have been arrested and taken away somewhere. Ongoing.

Also, back in Britain, a total of nine people were stopped, held for a week, and then released, the six from ???, and three from Burnley. The two groups are taking different routes to meet up with the convoy -- the six probably already have. The other group sound as though they're driving all the way around the other end of the Mediterranean to Lebanon, then sailing to Egypt. Sheesh.


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Viva Palestina could be either Spanish or Italian (perhaps also Portuguese?), but it is a chant common in demonstrations (even in Quebec). (Viva, viva Palestina). Sounds good. No doubt comes from some global justice group - have no idea what flavour - in Spain or Italy.

I'd say the closest political tie is Respect, Galloway's party. Some people from various lefty groups or none belong to that party, as do several immigrant groups, but I don't think it is a "front" for anyone. Think British SWP may have tried to take it over, but I don't believe it is anyone's creature. I don't think anyone could make it so at this point.

Here is a commentary piece by Galloway on the points skdadl has raised, about the silly harassment of innocent Muslim Britons involved in a peaceful humanitarian/protest movement.

Galloway - needless obstacles on the road to peace

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Anyone with half a brain would know that it's in everyone's interest to encourage young British Muslims into peaceful democratic political actions because apathy is not the only alternative.

By smearing these men and their community in this way, the police, or whoever directed them, have set back community relations by years and made easier the job of the Islamist fanatics, who seek to lure these communities on to the rocks of separatism, extremism and violence.


Gafsa is a mining region, known for militant labour, and social unrest. A miners' strike in 1978 was brutally put down when Bourghiba was still in power, with hundreds of deaths and thousands of arrests. Ben Ali is another dictator, a "friend of the west", and the police and state are very wary of a movement that can garner as much popular support as aid to the embattled Palestinians.

It is nothing like the beautiful seaside and historic palaces, mosques, ruins of several civilisations and lively cityscapes of tourist Tunisia.

By the way, a postcard of Anne Frank wearing a red keffieh is circulating here (haven't found one, nor the t-shirt). And also this great cartoon with a Palestinian girl around the same age in Gaza starting a diary:

http://www.boomerang.nl/kaarten/fransh/jos-collignon/

http://unkultur.olifani.de/?p=173 Anne in keffieh - the comments are often stupid - Zionists are going apeshit here - but this is the best image I've found. Probably it can be reproduced.

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Brief update: The two women who were reported arrested in Tunisia are now relaxing in Libya, having been escorted there after some confusions and misunderstandings. Apparently their vehicles became separated from the convoy some time after they entered Tunisia, and they headed for the wrong destination on their own. The convoy asked that they be escorted back, but further miscommunication meant that they were just taken on to Libya, which, under the circs, is ok. The rest of the convoy are taking a day off, and should catch up with them on Saturday. The Tunisians love them.

Well, of course they do! :mrgreen:


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PS: Gosh, if I weren't so crickety, I would just love to be part of this convoy. It's obviously very hard work all the way, even before they get to Gaza, and I know I'd just be a burden now, but my inner twenty-five-year-old is with them.

It's a shame that they diverted so far south in Tunisia (which is probably why the two lost children got lost -- the original plan was to go to Tunis). I think in Libya they will be forced to stick to the seashore -- woo hoo! skdadl is there in spirit.


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Wow thanks for all the links. Utterly wunnerful!

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'K, Skdadl, I posted a starter on this. Hope you still will too - this deserves way more coverage than it's getting.


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Go, Alison! I started yesterday, but then I got bogged down, as usual. I'll get back to it soon.


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Viva Palestina! update : Egypt will allow convoy to enter Gaza
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How incredibly heartening this is! :applause:


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This might be encouraging too.
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...the most important news out of the Middle East today may be the announcement in Cairo that Fatah and Hamas have agreed in principle on the formation of a national unity government by the end of March.
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Such a Palestinian national unity government could offer a viable Palestinian negotiating partner, a way to channel reconstruction aid into Gaza, an end to the endlessly destructive Fatah-Hamas conflict, and even an indirect way for Hamas to honor the Quartet's conditions.

According to the article, there's a lot of hard negotiating between the two groups before this becomes a reality. But if they can pull it off I think it would make it much more difficult for the Israeli government to claim it has no one to negotiate with.

H/t to Laura Rozen.


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Alison@Creekside wrote:
Viva Palestina! update : Egypt will allow convoy to enter Gaza
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After thinking about one of my posts 'way back there, I've come to the conclusion that George G., consummate showman that he is, probably had all these things fixed up from the start -- the multi-purpose visas, the opening of the Morocco-Algeria border, even things in Egypt. He's made something like this trip before on his own with a few supporters, his trip to Iraq, and I suspect that the politicians along the way feel it's good PR for them to co-operate with him, which it probably is.

He must know what a bastard Mubarak is, and how much Mubarak hates Hamas, but he also must have figured out how to chat Mubarak up -- otherwise, why would he have set off in the first place?

Anyway, it's all very good. Libya should be easy -- Gaddafi is really keen on looking good in the West. And even Egypt should be ok: the Muslim Brotherhood (Mubarak's only serious, if illegal opposition) are not going to want to give this convoy any trouble, since they support it for sincere reasons.


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This might be encouraging too.
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...the most important news out of the Middle East today may be the announcement in Cairo that Fatah and Hamas have agreed in principle on the formation of a national unity government by the end of March.
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Such a Palestinian national unity government could offer a viable Palestinian negotiating partner, a way to channel reconstruction aid into Gaza, an end to the endlessly destructive Fatah-Hamas conflict, and even an indirect way for Hamas to honor the Quartet's conditions.

According to the article, there's a lot of hard negotiating between the two groups before this becomes a reality. But if they can pull it off I think it would make it much more difficult for the Israeli government to claim it has no one to negotiate with.

H/t to Laura Rozen.


The good news, as the main link suggests, could be that Fatah and others got the message from George Mitchell that Obama is abandoning the strategy of isolating and demonizing Hamas. If that's so, it is hugely important, and so long overdue.

Condi Rice -- such a waste of time and lives, all those years. She wasn't the worst criminal of the bunch, but she sure was a criminal. :evil:


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That Viva Palestina initiative is incredibly uplifting. So much goodwill and passion has been shown from its inception and through its travels. It gives me hope and I hope it gives great comfort to the people in Gaza.

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Israel may face war crimes trials over Gaza
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The international criminal court is considering whether the Palestinian Authority is "enough like a state" for it to bring a case alleging that Israeli troops committed war crimes in the recent assault on Gaza.

The deliberations would potentially open the way to putting Israeli military commanders in the dock at The Hague over the campaign, which claimed more than 1,300 lives, and set an important precedent for the court over what cases it can hear.

As part of the process the court's head of jurisdictions, part of the office of the prosecutor, is examining every international agreement signed by the PA to decide whether it behaves - and is regarded by others - as operating like a state.

Following talks with the Arab League's head, Amr Moussa, and senior PA officials, moves have accelerated inside the court to deliver a ruling on whether it may be able to insist on jurisdiction over alleged war crimes perpetrated in Gaza, with a decision from the prosecutor's office expected within "months, not years".

Via Another Point of View.


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That is good news of course, if Israeli war criminals can actually face the dock, but international law has very disturbing tenets. So it is okay to massacre stateless people (as per Jewish people after the Nuremberg Laws), colonised or Indigenous people?

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Does anybody more up to date on these issues than I am know whether the PA has ever considered an UDI?


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I'd really doubt it. A UDI when you're not in a position to dictate borders would be a huge mistake.


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Although didn't Israel in essence have a UDI on May 14, 1948?


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Michael Ignatieff: Israel Apartheid Week and CUPE Ontario’s anti-Israel posturing should be condemned

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Great animated short


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That animation is so well done. As for Ignatieff... STFU!

Some interesting reads:

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Ignatieff (or whoever wrote that piece of trash):

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International law defines “apartheid” as a crime against humanity. Labelling Israel as an “apartheid” state is a deliberate attempt to undermine the legitimacy of the Jewish state itself.

Criticism of Israel is legitimate. Attempting to describe its very existence as a crime against humanity is not.


That is totally illogical. When we opposed apartheid in South Africa, we were not opposing the very existence of South Africa as a state.

You can see the trick being played, though, with those first two sentences. Leap from a specific crime to a challenge to the legitimacy of a state. When was that ever done in the case of South Africa?

Gah. Ignatieff is such a phony. Then again, he's hardly alone.


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Not to mention the "ethnic" aspect of it, identifying the Israeli state with the Jewish people.

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I am on this frequent letter-writers mailing list. I believe he is part of CanPalNet

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From: Gary Keenan [mailto:garydkeenan@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thu 3/5/2009 5:58 PM
To: Michael - M.P.Ignatieff
Cc: Gilad Atzmon; john and betty beeching; Linda Belanger; Dick Birley; Stewart and Alicja Brown; Canadian Arab Federation; donald currie; Gerry Deagle; Dr. M. I. Elmasry; richard fahlman; hani faris; Daryl Fieber; Norman Finkelstein; Ken Hiebert; Hayssam Hulays; Rafeh Hulays; George Irani; erik kalaidzis; Steve Kalil; Bill Kaufmann; Hanna and Marion Kawas; Dalal Kawas; Luay Kawasme; Salem Kittani; Writers Letter; Henry N. Lowi; Rafe Mair; Ali Mallah; Linda McQuaig; Leslie McWhinnie; Riad Muslih; Michael Neumann; Rula Odeh; Canadian Jewish Outlook Carl Rosenberg; Dr. Rabab; Bahija Reghai; Nizar Sakhnini; Omar Shaban; Abdullah Shaban; Sid Shniad; Orest Slepokura; Angie Tibbs; Stuart Whitney; Stephen Whitney; Dr. Ismail Zayid; Zerbisias, Antonia
Subject: Re: Your Response re Gaza


Mr. Ignatieff

What a gutless and unprincipled response. You are far too intelligent, educated and world travelled to be unaware of the irrefutable fact that the root cause of the Israel/Palestinian-Arab conflict is Israel's illegal and belligerent, indeed, brutal, occupation of the Palestinian West Bank, East Jerusalem (including its illegally extended boundaries), the Gaza Strip (still "occupied" under international law as Israel controls its entrances, exits, airspace, sea access, imports, exports and reserves the right to intervene militarily while refusing to live up to its commitments under both the July 7/08 cease-fire and the one ending its recent assault), as well as Syria's Golan Heights and Lebanon's Shebaa Farms.

Instead of pandering to a particular voting bloc, I respectfully urge you to muster up the courage and moral integrity to adopt an honest and fruitful policy. For instance, give the Liberal Party's total support to the 2002 Arab League's Beirut Summit Peace Initiative which offers Israel full recognition as a sovereign state, exchange of ambassadors, trade relations and full peace in exchange for its withdrawal from all lands it invaded in June 1967 and has occupied since along with its commitment to cooperate in achieving a "just solution" to the Palestinian refugee problem/crisis.

Look around you and comprehend the fact that a sea change is occurring regarding this now over 60 year conflict. For instance, Britain has just declared it is prepared to recognize Hezbollah and more and more diplomats etc. are calling for Hamas to be included in peace talks with Israel. (How can we call upon Hamas to recognize Israel when Israel does not recognize itself, i.e., define its borders and has not formally accepted the creation of a viable sovereign Palestinian state?)

Although its image has been deteriorating at an accelerating rate for years, due in large measure to its recent slaughter of 1,400 defenceless Gazans, including about 450 children (not to mention its massive destruction of homes, schools, factories, etc.), Israel is now viewed by the vast majority of the western world (including Canadians) as a pariah state; most certainly not one that shares the "same values" as Canadians.

I refuse to believe that you personally subscribe to the views you publicly express. You are no fool. I remain convinced that what you truly believe was expressed when you accurately described Israel's actions during its 2006 barbaric blitzkreig invasion of Lebanon as "war crimes."
I look forward to you and the Liberal Party doing what is right for all peoples of the Middle East, the world, and Canada by adopting a foreign policy based primarily on the sanctity of hard-won international humanitarian law that came about largely due to the monstrous crimes of Hitler and his fellow thugs, including the systematic murder of six million Jews.

Finally, I remind you that Canada is a signatory to the UN Charter, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the 1949 Fourth Geneva Convention. Please act accordingly

Regards,
Gary Keenan



--- On Thu, 3/5/09, Ignatieff, Michael - M.P. <IgnatM@parl.gc.ca> wrote:


From: Ignatieff, Michael - M.P. <IgnatM@parl.gc.ca>
Subject: Response to Gaza email
To: "'garydkeenan@yahoo.com'" <garydkeenan@yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 2:15 PM








Dear Sir/Madam:

Thank you for your letter regarding the situation in Gaza.

The Liberal Party shares your concerns about this conflict and the suffering and loss of life on all sides.

Following the recent ceasefire, we continue to stand with the international community in its efforts to build a lasting peace in this region. As a Party, we believe that the basis of this peace must be a safe and secure Israel that is recognized by and living side-by-side in peace with a viable Palestinian state. It must also include a full resolution of the many complex issues affecting this region. Ultimately, the best way to resolve the conflict is direct negotiation between the parties, with the assistance of the international community.

The Liberal Party's position reflects our long-standing commitment to peace, stability, justice and human rights in the Middle East. It also recognizes Canada's proud humanitarian reputation. In the aftermath of this conflict, we must engage with the international community, which the Harper Government has largely failed to do, in order to ensure that humanitarian assistance reaches those who need it and to help restore the communities that have been affected by the conflict.

Thank you again for taking the time to share your views on this important issue.

Sincerely,


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I got the identical response last night to a letter I wrote.
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